Shadoer
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« on: 02 May 2003, 15:12:23 » |
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Well since people seemed to like my previous post, I have decided to make this much more expanded and indepth guide to covert ops. Once again, I am not a master, but this is just stuff I have founld out. Please enjoy.
Covert Ops Tactics 2 =================
Introduction ------------ So you want to be a covert ops agent. Well I have determined that being a covert ops agent means you become the I in team. Its you versus the enemy team and your own team is just as likely to kill you as to help you. Esencially consider this like another FPS that requires stealth where all your team mates NPC's, but your enemies are human players. Are you up to the challenge?
Choose Your Weapons ---------------------- Sten: This machine gun is fairly useful for a covert ops agent. The good points is that its a decent machine gun and best of all its silent! The bad is that it does less damage then a regular machine gun and best of all, it has also the added feature of overheating at your moment of need. Add too this that if you automatticaly reload it, it will only be reloaded with 16 rounlds rather then its maximum 32 rounds, so reload it often. With the Sten you can actually take on your enemies and stand a decent chance of comming out alive. But remember your enemies will have better weapons so make sure you have the eliment of suprise. FG42: Ever wonder what happens when an engineer gets really drunk, they create weapons like this. The FG42 is what happens with you combine a machine gun with a sniper rifle. It has a wonderful scope to hit your enemies with accuracy, and you can go toe to toe with your enemies as this weapon does good damage. This is about all thats good with it. Its not silent, the scope will not zoom in, and you can only fire 20 rounds before you reload (so make sure every shot counts). Overall, I think this is something that should never have been thought of. But the FG42 allows you to try sniping and machinie gun your enemies. Just if you go into scope mode know that the rounds will fire slower (but faster then a regular sniper rifle) so aim low at your enemies (first shot at the leg, and the as the gun jerks up the second shot could hit the enemy in their head!)
M1 Grand (Allied Sniping Rifle): This is the Allied sniping rifle. Its silent and has a zoomiming scope. It does more damage then the Axis equivilent and I even think it has a longer range. Unfortunatly it has less ammunition and has one really painful draw back, you can't reload it until you have shot all your rounds (then it reloads automatically). Either way, its a good rifle.
K43 (Axis Sniping Rifle): The Axis sniping rifle is also silent and has a zoming scope. But unlike its Allied counterpart, it can be reloaded and carries more ammuntion. Unfortunatly it does less damage and I belive has a shorter range.
K43 versus M1 Grand: - K43 - Ammo 10/20. - Scope and silent. - Less damage and range then M1 Grand.
- M1 Grand - Ammo 8/16. - Scope and silent. - More damage then FG42 and more range. - Can't reload till all ammo spent.
- Overal I belive the M1 Grand is a truer sniper's rilfe as it will make it easier to pick off targets due to its superior damage. But the K43 makes it feasible to go behind enemy lines and fight the enemy thanks to its ammo and ability to reload. Basically if you just want to snipe, you might want to join the Allies for the M1 Grand. But if you want to snipe and do covert ops, go to the Axis for the K43
Getting your uniform -------------------- Now that you choose your weapon, now time to get an enemy uniform. Getting one is not too hard, just don't go after ones in open spaces and hope that an enemy doesn't come by and shoot you. But lets take a look at the uniforms you most want.
1. Covert Ops Uniform Best uniform to get as people won't wonder why you are carring the weapons you are carring. Also its not too hard to get as you can just wait till a covert ops agent gets caught in your territory. 2. Engineer Another good uniform as people won't wonder why an engineer is around something that a covert ops agent want to blow to pieces. 3. Soldier The neutral uniform. Not the best but not the worst. Nothing is really special about it.
4. Field Ops Want people to come up too you expecting ammo? Worst part about this uniform if you pay as an axis covert ops agent. The allied Field Ops guy is black, so when you steal his uniform you are dressed like him but your not black and you will stick out like a sore thumb.
5. Medic Even worse then Field Ops as people want health more then ammo. People will come up too you, so be ready.
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Shadoer
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« Reply #1 on: 02 May 2003, 15:12:43 » |
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Sabatageing The Enemy ----------------------- You have a uniform and you have a gun. Time for some Sabatage. I have gone over in my previous post on how to infiltrate the enemy lines. Essentially keep out of sight and don't do anything suspicious (like running towards the enemy spawn point). Also remember the golden rule: IF THEY DON'T SEE YOU DO IT, THEY YOU DON'T LOSE YOUR UNIFORM AND YOU DON'T DIE. Keep out of sight as much as possible and take out people you can out of sight. But you must choose your target. Also remember that you don't have to go right behind a target to kill them and keep your uniform, you can shoot them from a fair distance. Just make sure no one sees you do it! Also, aim for their head. Here are your targets:
1. Engineers and anything they build They are your number one target. In fact, I think I could argue that a Covert Ops fight is a battle against enemy engineers. Engineers fix the tanks, build the bridges, defuse stuff, build outposts, machine guns, plant land mines, they are what make the teams go and win games. Think blowing up that enemy Forward Command Post isn't important? Remember that if an engineer goes and fixes it, that one engineer not going after your Fuel Depot. Don't belive that blowing up the fortifications around a Fuel Depot are not going to do much, this give your engineer time to plant the dynamyte to win the game. If you are going to give your life killing something, make sure its an engineer.
2. Anything in the prone or crouch position. Machine gunners, Mortars, Enemy Snipers, all juicy targets that don't move much and are important to your enemy. Make sure you kill these guys.
3. Anything with your back to you. If you can kill it, why not.
Getting Out of Sticky Situations ------------------------------- Sabataged the enemy and succesfully got them really angry at you. Well now you will eventually find yourself in some bad situations. Your going to need some luck, brains, and good aim to get out of them, but its not impossible
1. Low on Ammo and/or Health Getting your all important uniform probably costed you health and ammo or just surviveing has. Either way you will want a better solution then suiciding yourself. First remember the rule of Guriella warfare: Your enemy is your source for everything. On the demo map, the Allies have specific depots for health and ammo, go there if you feel like taking a risk if your Axis. (I imagine the Allies will have the same opportunities on other maps). Also, dead enemy covert ops agents will leave their guns, think about picking them up if your desperate. Don't think about asking your medics and field ops for help. They are more likely to kill you before help you.
2. Surrounded by enemies whom are not shooting at you... yet Its quite likely that while your right about to blow up something (like an enemy forward command outpost) suddenly a few enemy troops come in and hang around a bit. If you find one of them is looking at you, you can either shoot first and hope of taking as many down as possible, or wait 2 seconds to see if they figured you out and start shooting. Running away isn't a bad idea, or is trying to take them out with the eliment of suprise. Also, if you are right next to the thing you want blown too heck, you can go for it but it could cost you your life. It all comes down to instinct in my opinion. You will either come out a hero or a guy with more holes then swiss cheese.
3. Ok then enemy is shooting at me! Don't think about useing your guns one them (unless the guy is going after you with a hand gun or its an enemy covert ops agent). Best idea is to run and use you grenades and satnel charges. Even if you don't take them out, you can damage them enough to take them on in a gun battle. It all requres is luck and skill.
4. Now I am being attacked from the back. Same as 3 only you have less chance of survivial. Probably best to blast yourself up if you have time so the enemy can't use your uniform.
5. My own engineer place dynamite at the very thing I was about to blow up! My advice. Blow it up yourself to be sure. Your engineer shouldn't do this in the first place and its better to blast it immidiatly rather then risk an enemy engineer defuseing it.
Final Thoughts --------------- Be creative and you will go far. Also, don't get to angry with your team mates. They may shoot you, and your engineers might place dynamite in places you wanted to blow up. Heck they might blow to pieces the very corpse you were wanting for your new uniform. They are still your team and you should help them. Even if you blow up the fortifications to the fuel depot and protect your engineer as he lays the explosive only to have him rifle grenade you as a show of thanks.
Also an notice about checking covert ops. I have noticed that there have been at least 2 covert ops agents that have somehow managed to do something truly deadly. When they have an enemy uniform, they will apear with a name, health bar, rank, and the whole bit. This makes them almost impossible to detect and grossly overpowered. I am not sure if this is something gained with rank, but I am betting its a type of hack/ alteration to the config file. Be on your guard.
I hope you have enjoyed this article and good luck.
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Hawk
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« Reply #2 on: 02 May 2003, 16:32:47 » |
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Very Nice shadoer 
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Salaman
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« Reply #3 on: 02 May 2003, 17:11:54 » |
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Very nice man.  One thing. Enemy covert ops displaying health bar, name, etc. is not a cheat. The idea is that if you see a teqmmate from a distance, you will asssume it's your teammate, even if it is a covert ops in your teammates uniform. So as a covert ops. Enemies targeting you from a distance will see their teammates info displayed, since you're too far away to recognize. Once they get closer however, the name and info will disappear and they will know who you are.  Hope that helps you.
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« Reply #4 on: 18 May 2003, 12:59:21 » |
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Still no mention about scanning for enemy mines....
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Salaman
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« Reply #5 on: 18 May 2003, 15:48:39 » |
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Good point!
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Anatidaephobia:The fear that somewhere, somehow, a duck is watching you. I still pity the FOOLS who forgot about white text!! Dyslexics of the world ... untie!!
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VeggieBurger
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« Reply #6 on: 30 May 2003, 09:57:30 » |
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Awesome, although there are somethings I should add:
Use your binoculars! You can use them to spot targets that are far away, but you can also use them to display enemy targets on the map for your team.
If you scan the ground with your binoculars and happen to look over an enemy mine, it will appear on the map (g) for your teammates to see. Same thing happens when you look at an enemy soldier with the binoculars, they appear on the map. And remember, if you ever want to remove your uniform manually, just aim at the ground/sky and click once.
You can also kill enemy soldiers with the satchel charge, and even if they see you, you will keep your uniform.
Also, I think it'd be a good idea to have a bind like this:
bind h "tell_attacker ^1Stop shooting!^3 I'm a spy with an enemy uniform!" Although I don't know whether 'tell_attacker' still works in ET.
This could make team mates stop shooting you, or confuse enemies into thinking that they are shooting a teammate. It'll make them stop shooting for a couple of seconds, thats for sure.
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« Reply #7 on: 04 June 2003, 15:12:53 » |
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Also, I think it'd be a good idea to have a bind like this:
bind h "tell_attacker ^1Stop shooting!^3 I'm a spy with an enemy uniform!" Although I don't know whether 'tell_attacker' still works in ET.
This could make team mates stop shooting you, or confuse enemies into thinking that they are shooting a teammate. It'll make them stop shooting for a couple of seconds, thats for sure.
ROFLMAO! Ha Ha! Nice tip!  [edit] Some good stuff in this topic, I'm making this sticky  [/edit]
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« Reply #8 on: 07 July 2003, 06:06:54 » |
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Shadoer - I thought your Covert Ops tactics were good, so I was wondering if I could use them on my website about RTCW - ET!
I was wondering if I am allowed to, and if I am, what credit would you like me to give?
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« Reply #9 on: 14 July 2003, 06:48:46 » |
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Great info to start me off. 8)  8) 
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zakatak777
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« Reply #10 on: 12 August 2003, 22:16:03 » |
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i play covert alot and my favorite targets are morters......poor defenseless morters, unless they are being fed ammo by a lvl 4 field ops(they can tell if your an enemy) also lvl4 covert ops can kill in one knife stab in the back
p.s. im new to the boards but ive been playin et since it came out
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Genocide-temp
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« Reply #11 on: 10 September 2003, 11:29:42 » |
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I am a covert ops. I feel these points have not been covered correctly so listen up or watch ure backs Stratagy. When proceeding toward your obj u will often have people approaching you. 2 things 1) dont keep walking toward them .. turn round (this will hide ure gun, and make it look like ure going the same direction) even do a little strafe as if ure looking up the way u came for enemy. This should help belay some of their fear. it will also hide ure gun from their veiw with ure body. If you do it carefully they should pass u by without a second look. 2) USE URE EARS. u can often hear enemy approaching far before you see them .. so try to look inconspicuous .. do something (tie up ure shoelace lol) If you are a field op, (whilst I know ure white and a dead give away) get out ure smoke nade, at least it looks in place some poeple are damn dumb. Knifing with practice can be a brilliant way to kill, do it carefully and its very silent very effective and more fun than a bucket of chicken. I have on occasion had 3 people approach me who Ive allowed past, ran after them and taken all 3 out with knife as they dont realise as they are too busy shooting, the first they realise is they are dead. And of course you dont lose your uni. Wait for oportunity, over gun hoe. Let them wander a bit past and run after aim carefully for their head and they wont realise they are being shot till they are dead. Uni intact as they didnt see u. With the silenced weapons only I believe. Dont stay in the same places .. people will come back for you. Use smoke to help ure teammates get out of a fortified position with mgs ect.
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« Reply #12 on: 19 September 2003, 01:10:55 » |
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Some people may lose their uniform when they knife someone. This is because the person you are knifing, or someone else, has seen you make the kill.
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« Reply #13 on: 19 September 2003, 07:09:50 » |
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Some people may lose their uniform when they knife someone. This is because the person you are knifing, or someone else, has seen you make the kill.
Yeah but thats part of being carefull. the person u stab should never see you as if u do it from behind its an instant kill. If someone else see's you chances are you didnt wait till the time was right. 
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Live by the knife, die by the knife. Modern day Samurai 
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« Reply #14 on: 20 September 2003, 00:13:34 » |
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You should get the enemy to move somewhere in a corner so that when you shoot him you can easily get his uniform without other people seeing it
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